02-27-2019, 11:05 AMArGarBarGar Wrote:

02-27-2019, 10:58 AM.bojo Wrote: it's not about if the semi can hit the cap. the difference is still 10 tpe for the person who can go above 40. the active player would make 1500 instead of 1400 (just an example) after 10 seasons. the semi is still making the same progress he normally would. the only difference is that the active player can fight regression a little better.

which, would make even more sense if this is tied together with the regression ideas people have been throwing around.

You are assuming all semi-actives hit the cap, though.

Also how robust do we have to make regression before people are satisfied? Not to mention all-time records will be all but impossible to hit if we continue to do that.

It seems all these suggestions are being made without any recognition of everything else that is involved in the league. We did that the first time we tweaked regression recently, we did that with the new update scale, and I feel like we are going to be doing that with these suggestions now.

Nobody is assuming that all semi-actives hit the cap. The idea that removing the cap is worse for semi-actives who only do 10% or 50% of the PTs than it is for semi-actives who hit the cap is wrong. Bojo is right here.

Of course removing the cap increases the disparity between max earners and semi-actives who earn less. But it increases that disparity by the same amount for everyone, regardless of whether Semi-Active A earned 10 capped TPE or Semi-Active B earned 30 TPE, that doesn't matter. The gap between them and the max earner only grows by between 3-10 TPE per season. The extra 20 between A and B is mathematically meaningless for the purpose of considering this - that gap is already in place regardless of what we do.

Given the graph earlier in this thread that shows the minimal impact of dropping the cap, and how much easier it makes our updates, I think it's entirely worth it.

I think some folks are misunderstanding how problematic it is for some updaters to work with the Marius rule. Many semi-actives aren't aware of the Marius rule, forget it, don't know the cap, or how much TPE they have that is capped. Do you think that making them include it in every update helps keep them active? That's what the concern is after all. I think that simplifying the updating process for those players who don't stay on top of everything is the way to keep those players more active and less confused. Not by rejecting their updates.

And sure we can continue to say "reject their updates and tell them how the cap works." Great in theory but some updaters are more lenient. They say "I'll allow this update but remember this rule", which is a problem because then you have teams being treated differently.